Posted by: Jim | February 9, 2007

Mission Accomplished

Ted Haggard is now 100% heterosexual.

 

I don’t want to be snarky, because it won’t help. But this alleged transformation is evidence that the Christian culture is steeped in denial.

Haggard is not 100% heterosexual. He’s made the decision to act like a 100% heterosexual in order to maintain the acceptance of his peers. He’s going to work this new celebrity to maintain his career, and simply point it in a different direction. The saddest thing is, he will now be a poster boy for a lie: that homosexuality is a sin and not something you are born with, and that it is a choice.

ALL LIES.

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  1. A total conversion of preference and lifestyle is washed away by three weeks of “intense counseling”? Who do they think they’re fooling? It’s just another form of brainwashing, as in “thought reform,” and “coercive persuasion”. In my experience issue repression doesn’t solve a problem. It just results in an eventual unpleasant explosion of some sort down the line.

    Sorry Ted. Not buying it.

  2. Yes, this is awful.

    But, I suppose, Haggard values the people within his Christian culture, and to declare that he is gay, that it is simply who he is, would mean to lose a lot of friends and to lose his role within that culture. He obviously doesn’t want to step out and be another type of public figure, one reconciled to his sexuality. He would certainly find a host of new friends and platforms to speak from. But, he’d probably experience some villification too.

    This reaction is so disappointing. We are back to the Big Stumbling Block, that in Haggard’s circles, people don’t appear able to accept that their God creates gay people, that instead it is a sin, rather than a natural state.

  3. Where exactly does one go for “homosexual rehab”?
    Is it a 12 step program like AA?
    Do you go cold turkey or taper off?
    And does anyone in the world truly believe he is no longer gay?

  4. also, at AA, the first thing you do is admit you are an alcoholic.

    what did Haggard say? ‘my name is Ted Haggard and i am NOT a homosexual…’

    or ‘my name is Ted Haggard and in three weeks i’ll be denying i was ever a homosexual?’

    the AA comparison is valid, because they base the success on acceptance and fighting a daily battle with your alcoholism. ie: you are never recovered, the best you can be is an alcoholic who doesn’t drink (kind of like celibacy)

    i actually wondered what would happen if Haggard had come out and said, ‘i’m homosexual, but from now on will observe celibacy…’ it would’ve helped crystallise whether for religious folks in the US, it is the act, the orientation, or both that offends them. maybe you’d even get a schism!

  5. Not to be contrary, but can either side absolutely prove their case? Genetic or choice? I personally agree with you, Jim. Haggard will never be 100% heterosexual, but on what basis do you claim that sexuality is choice? If it works both ways (hetero or homo), I do not ever recall making a choice to like girls, yet I can’t get enough of them. If homosexuality is a choice, from what is it deviating from? The ‘norm?’

  6. Todd… I don’t believe Jim said it was a choice. He said that it’s sad that Ted is living a lie being a poster boy professing that it is a choice.

  7. I don’t think sexuality is a choice. I did not choose to like women–the thought of chosing between being sexually attracted to women or men never entered my mind. Women were just so — WOW! But for a homosexual person, they got the “wow” from a member of their gender.

    It is genetic, and it can be proven. Some rams are gay, as recently revealed in the news: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1582336,00.html

    Now … Rams are not aware of any choice they have either. They don’t care about what society thinks, or whether they should avoid pink pullovers. But 8% of them like other male sheep. If it’s not genetic, it is biological in nature.

  8. I find it interesting he had rehab for his homosexuality, but not a word about the Meth he admittedly purchased (but didn’t “inhale”?). While all the fuss in the media about his homosexuality, when real sin is the betrayal of his vows to his wife? I’m sure she’s relieved that he’s 100% heterosexual now. Life can get back to normal.

  9. keith,

    when are public figures (Clinton, Haggard) going to learn how to enjoy Drugs? what’s the problem? does divinity college and the Ivy League need a ‘Taking Drugs 101’ for these fools. ‘get it down you!’ if a gas-pumping moron can send themselves into outer space on crystal meth, you people have no excuse! put your education to use and get with the program.

  10. I don’t know which I enjoy reading more, the blog or the comments. Either way I’ll continue stopping by.

    warm wishes

  11. Bulls-eye, Jim. It has been all but conclusively proven that the primary cause of homosexuality is the result of a hormone imbalance during prenatal development. This same imbalance taken to an extreme can also result in a hermaphrodite. I argue that homosexuality is a birth defect for this reason alone:

    It is counter productive to the primary purpose of all living creatures: Procreation.

    Homosexuality may even be an evolutionary construct against overpopulation. Mother Nature gets a lot of things right in the long run. There is one other thing to consider though:

    Homosexual urges may not be a choice, but acting on them is.

    -Tommy

  12. tommy,

    if our primary purpose truly is procreation then not only have i served my purpose but i think it’s a lousy one.

  13. Purpose? We don’t need no steenking purpose.

  14. Now we are getting into philosophy. Why are we here? Is our presence divine or an accident of chemistry? If the evolution of life on Earth is an accident, than truly our existence has absolutely no purpose and humans and our egos are meaningless. If there is a God, but human ingenuity can eventually solve all problems, does God become obsolete? Big questions with no answers.

    -Tommy

  15. “Homosexual urges may not be a choice, but acting on them is.”

    So the orientation is a birth defect, hmm, right, but then the individual has to hold back the biological tide by exercising the power of choice over All of their sexual impulses. is this right? you don’t say whether you accept that the strength of the sexual impulse is the same as in heterosexual individuals. if so, that’s a hell of an ask, as you yourself say that humanity’s primary purpose is the sexual urge.

    “It is counter productive to the primary purpose of all living creatures: Procreation.”

    In point of fact, homosexual behaviour is simply non-reproductive, it sits at a tangent to procreation. And many gay people have children, too, which you seem unaware of, they are not all lifelong leather-boys and diesel dykes dancing care-free at The Blue Oyster.

    I would regard murder, be it as a capital crime or on the battlefield, as a much better example of something counter-productive to the primary purpose of procreation. And warlike urges may not be a choice, but please remember, George Bush and Dick Cheney, acting on them is!

  16. I know you hate me King, but must you respond to everything I post on this blog?

  17. I was going to let this dog rest, but I can’t. I am getting tired of your straw-man arguments whenever I post a comment on here.

    “I would regard murder, be it as a capital crime or on the battlefield, as a much better example of something counter-productive to the primary purpose of procreation. And warlike urges may not be a choice, but please remember, George Bush and Dick Cheney, acting on them is!”

    This is a non sequitur that has nothing to do with this discussion.

    “So the orientation is a birth defect, hmm, right, but then the individual has to hold back the biological tide by exercising the power of choice over All of [sic] their sexual impulses. is this right? you [sic] don’t say whether you accept that the strength of the sexual impulse is the same as in heterosexual individuals. if so, that’s a hell of an ask, as you yourself say that humanity’s primary purpose is the sexual urge.”

    If I am wrong about homosexuality being mainly the result of a chemical imbalance during prenatal development, please cite a few sources that refute my position. I did not say that ‘humanity’s primary purpose is sexual urge’; I said that the primary urge is procreation.

    As a Libertarian, I am a social liberal. King, I don’t care if you’re gay, bi, or straight. But have you ever asked WHY people are homosexual? Why other animals are homosexual?

    -Tommy

  18. i don’t hate you.

    my argument is not a straw man.

    if you see the valid point that war and murder are counter-productive to procreation, rather than gay lifestyles, as a non sequitur, i don’t know what to say. you didn’t manage to respond to the fact that many gay people share in procreation, too, are married and/or have families, and are not simply on the other side, removed from the daily business of family life and its values. that is the sort of view of society that religious conservatives foster.

    also, why shouldn’t i respond to your posts? most of what you post usually contains some outrageous falsehood and/or adopts some off-the-scale extremist position. last time it was ‘thugs and terrorists’, this time it’s an unnuanced quasi-scientific view of homosexuality that concludes that it is ‘unnatural’, a deviation from a norm you propose. add a link to your evidence.

    lastly, i couldn’t give the proverbial 2 sh*ts about how you frame your political views, i only respond to what you post here.

    as for why people are homosexual, or animals, i just see it as natural. after all, it goes on in all human culture, and has been celebrated, tolerated, and persecuted in its turn, much like religious belief. i don’t really see it as any big thing, it is hardly going to derail the progress of the species.


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